Chicks on Brown Rice, Hens on Green Corn, Sun on the Floor
Master Cho Han-kyu, interpreted by Kim Chang, Founder of Korean Natural Farming (Janong)
Master Cho spoke Korean, with an interpreter. We translated every Korean line again and checked it, so you read what he said, not only what the room heard.
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This part runs from 1:37:15 to 2:11:53 of the session video. Keep watching and the next part plays on.
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The livestock section starts. Cho shows his self-ventilating pen and skylit chicken house, then raises chicks: brown rice first, the 3-day yolk, egg yolk with bamboo leaves, then greens like a cow. Green corn chopped and fermented with IMO4, LAB and grape yeast becomes feed; his feed-plot arithmetic gets checked by the room. He ends on the layer house: openings at 36 cm, sun across the floor once a day, and a rice-straw floor with no flies and no smell.
What he taught
How does Cho house chickens and raise chicks so the feed is cheap and the house has no smell?
Livestock begins at 1:37:25 with slides: a 3-D drawing of a pen with airflow arrows, a long chicken pen with bamboo behind it, chicks on brown rice, a chick-rearing slide with bamboo in the brooder. At about 1:59 Cho draws the feed plot on the flip chart ('1.8m', '910株', '1800kg'). From 2:05 the layer-house slide shows hens on a straw floor under an open skylight.
- Chick starter — Cho: brown rice is the first feed. The yolk carried in the belly feeds the chick for 3 days. After day 3 give 'mother's milk', egg yolk (interpreter: boil it and shred it), with bamboo leaves. Later lots of greens 'like a cow'; in Hawaiʻi, corn leaves.
- Homemade yeast from grapes — Cho: buy burst grapes, put them in a container, cover, leave 7 to 8 hours (interpreter: about seven), stir, take off the skins and keep the flesh: that is the yeast. No sugar, no quantities.
- Fermented green-corn feed — Corn at two months (about 1 m 10 cm), cut whole with the young ears, chopped small with a chopper; add IMO4, lactic acid bacteria (Protectors, LAB) and the yeast; ferment. No quantities given.
- Feed plot (as drawn, and as checked) — Cho: one pyeong, 1.8 m × 1.8 m, corn at 20 cm spacing, 2 kg per plant. He wrote 910 plants (then 900) and 1,800 kg, enough for 9,000 chickens at 200 g. The audience's check: 9 × 9 = 81 plants, so about 162 kg per cut.
- Layer house — Skylight that opens; openings at chicken height, 36 cm; wire mesh instead of walls; partitions 36 cm high; soil floor with rice straw. House plans from CGNF Hawaiʻi.
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Sun on a sheet-iron roof pulls fresh air through the pen
The hot air under the roof expands, gets light and flies off; the hotter it gets, the faster fresh air comes in. Floor moisture and smell blow away. Cho's patented design; blueprint fee, 30% to CGNF Hawaiʻi.
▶ 1:37:29 From the slides
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A skylight puts sun on every part of the floor at least once a day
Bamboo forest behind the pen. No smell, no flies. German scientists and company heads asked for exclusive rights for Europe; Cho refused: farmers only.
▶ 1:40:45 From the slides
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A hatchling's first feed is brown rice
Vets and livestock nutritionists say it will kill them. Cho: these chicks eat well and grow well.
▶ 1:45:10 From the slides
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A Hawaiʻi farmer with 15,000 chickens: IMO4 alone, no smell, no disease
He visited that day. His report, as Cho tells it.
▶ 1:47:28 As spoken
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Brown-rice chicks grow intestines about twice as long
Longer digestion, so the hen can eat what was never counted as feed and still lay; feed costs drop.
▶ 1:49:29 As spoken
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The yolk in a chick's belly is 3 days of food
Chicks from the hatchery won't die in those 3 days without feed.
▶ 1:51:05 As spoken
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After day 3: egg yolk with bamboo leaves
Bamboo leaf has the toughest fiber of the green leaves; raised on it, the birds later eat softer greens and their chlorophyll easily. Raise them to eat grass like a cow.
▶ 1:51:42 As spoken
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Corn grows 1 m 10 cm in two months; cut it then
The interpreter first said 2 m 10, then corrected herself.
▶ 1:54:13 As spoken
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Chop the green corn, add IMO4, LAB and yeast, ferment: top-quality feed
Whole plant, young ears and all; don't pick the ears.
▶ 1:54:41 As spoken
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Grape yeast: burst grapes covered 7–8 hours, skins removed
Cho said 7 to 8 hours; the interpreter said seven.
▶ 1:55:18 As spoken
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A grown chicken eats 200 g of feed a day
The basis for the feed plot.
▶ 1:57:20 As spoken
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A 1.8 m square of corn at 20 cm holds 81 plants, about 162 kg, not 900 plants and 1,800 kg
Cho's board: 910株 (then 900) × 2 kg = 1,800 kg = 9,000 chickens. An audience member: 1.8 m at 20 cm is 9 by 9, 81 plants. The interpreter changed 910 to 900 and the room's point was never answered. 81 × 2 kg = 162 kg. Even 1,800 kg would be one day's feed for 9,000 birds.
▶ 2:01:21 Written on the board
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Hawaiʻi is warm all year: six crops of corn, and the feed bill drops below half
'Six times' was not interpreted; 'per year' is not clearly heard. Use a chopper.
▶ 2:02:28 As spoken
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Wall openings sit at chicken height, 36 cm, so fresh air meets their noses
A grown hen standing with her head up is 36 cm.
▶ 2:05:36 From the slides
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The sun crosses the whole floor once a day; the ultraviolet sterilizes it
Through the open skylight.
▶ 2:06:29 From the slides
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Wire mesh, no walls; partitions 36 cm high. At 30 cm the hens see each other and fight
▶ 2:06:56 From the slides
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Rice straw carries gochogyun (hay bacillus), which breaks down the droppings by evening
Morning droppings are gone by evening. Scratching sinks them into the soil floor, where they turn into feed: about 30% of what the birds eat. No flies, no smell.
▶ 2:09:49 As spoken
- The feed-plot numbers on the board don't add up: 1.8 m at 20 cm spacing is 81 plants, as the audience said. Cho's 2017 poultry course gives 81 plants and 162 kg. 'Six crops' a year is heard once, not clearly; the course says four or five.
- No quantities are given for the fermented corn feed or the yeast.
- The doubled gut and the 15,000-chicken farm are Cho's statements; no data shown.
- Only the interpreter names Hilo as the site of the planned 6,000-pyeong facility.
- Start chicks on brown rice, then egg yolk with bamboo leaves after day 3, then plenty of greens.
- Grow corn for its green stalk, cut at about two months, chop it and ferment it with IMO4, LAB and yeast to assist the birds' feed.
- Plan a feed plot on real numbers: a 1.8 m square at 20 cm spacing holds 81 plants.
- Make yeast from burst grapes: cover 7–8 hours, then take out the skins.
- Build openings at the bird's height, let the sun cross the floor daily, and lay rice straw on a soil floor.
What the room didn't hear
Where the English in the room left out or changed what Master Cho said in Korean.
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▶ 1:40:56
The room heard When the sun hits, the sun will hit each part of the inside of the pen.
Cho said The whole pen gets sunlight at least once a day.
'Once a day' was dropped.
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▶ 1:49:54
The room heard Because they don't consider that brown rice is not healthy, but they eat those brown rice and they grow healthy, so you save money.
Cho said With the longer gut, they eat and digest even things never accepted as chicken feed and still lay eggs, so feed costs less.
Cho's point is cheap feed from what wasn't counted as feed, not brown rice.
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▶ 1:51:42
The room heard After three days later you need to give egg yolk. You need to boil it and then shred it.
Cho said Once 3 days have passed, you have to give them mother's milk.
Boil-and-shred is the interpreter's addition; Cho's 'mother's milk' is the egg yolk.
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▶ 1:55:18
The room heard The grape that's burst open... let it sit about seven hours.
Cho said Buy burst grapes... keep it covered for about 7 to 8 hours.
Buying split grapes, and the 8 hours, dropped.
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▶ 1:57:32
The room heard 1 meter 80 centimeters times 1 meter 80 centimeters.
Cho said Plant corn on one pyeong, 1 m 80 by 1 m 80; that's 3.6 square meters.
'One pyeong' and Cho's area dropped (1.8 × 1.8 is 3.24 m²).
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▶ 2:02:28
Cho said Hawaiʻi is always warm, so... six times...
Six corn crops (apparently a year) not interpreted.
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▶ 2:11:26
The room heard So they scratch and they eat from the floor; about 30% of their feed comes from the floor.
Cho said They dig up and eat the droppings, their own dung, from the floor, and that covers 30% of their feed.
What they eat, their own broken-down dung, was softened to 'the floor'.
Next to Master Cho's books
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Agrees
Brown rice first, then bamboo leaves His book gives the same order: whole brown rice first (3 days for layers, 1 for broilers), then bamboo leaves. Here he adds why: the 3-day yolk carries the chick.
Cho, Janong Natural Farming (2010 draft), p. 73
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Differs
Feed plot: 1.8 × 1.8 m of corn at 20 cm, 2 kg a plant His April 2017 poultry course gives the same unit and spacing but 81 stalks and about 162 kg per unit, four crops a year. That matches the audience here, not the 900 plants and 1,800 kg on tonight's board.
ch20-nutrition-layers — Grow a Feed Plot
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Differs
Grape yeast: burst grapes, covered, 7–8 hours, no sugar His Advanced book crushes 1 kg of grapes with 200–300 g of sugar and ferments it. In another 2017 class he said three hours under a blanket. Tonight: no sugar, 7 to 8 hours.
CGNF Advanced (2005.12) (English translation), p. 11
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Agrees
Skylight sun across the floor daily; straw floor, no smell Janong describes the roof window lighting the whole floor once a day and disinfecting it, and a no-smell, no-cleaning house on a soil floor with straw.
Cho, Janong Natural Farming (2003), p. 182
“Should I take the side of the chicks that eat well and grow well, or the side of the scholars?”
▶ 1:45:55
“Only when farmers live well does Hawaiʻi live well.”
▶ 1:44:37
“Raise them into chickens that eat grass like a cow.”
▶ 1:53:01
“Even while drinking water, the chick thanks God.”
▶ 2:04:34
“Man, the lord of all creation, eats the food he's given and doesn't know how to say thank you.”
▶ 2:04:47
In this part
- 1:37:15A pen that ventilates itself
- 1:40:34The chicken pen the Germans wanted
- 1:45:00Brown rice first, whatever the experts say
- 1:46:44A 15,000-chicken farm on IMO4
- 1:49:00Past 8:30: the longer gut
- 1:50:45Yolk, egg, bamboo, corn: raising chicks
- 1:54:18Green corn and grape yeast: fermented feed
- 1:57:16The feed plot, and the room checks the math
- 2:02:22Six crops, half the feed bill; the chick looks up
- 2:05:14The layer house: skylight, 36 cm, wire walls
- 2:07:44Admin: house plans and a poultry course
- 2:09:34Rice straw floor: no smell, no flies
Transcript
English translation, checked against the Korean as spoken.
1:37:25 Kim Chang (interpreter): So now we're doing livestock.
1:37:28 Master Cho: Here is the roof, and this roof is galvanized sheet iron. Iron. When the sun beats down, the inside gets hot. It makes the air hot. It expands, right?
여기가 지붕인데 이 지붕이 함석이야. 아이언. 그런데 햇볕이 쬐면 이 안이 뜨거워지지. 공기가 뜨거워지게 합니다. 팽창하잖아.
1:37:52 Kim Chang (interpreter): So when sun hit that iron metal, the roof gets hot. So underneath, the air is starting to expand.
1:38:00 Master Cho: As it expands it gets light, so it flies off, doesn't it?
팽창해서 가벼워지니까 날아가지 않나?
1:38:09 Kim Chang (interpreter): So when the air expands, it becomes very light, so all the hot air just goes out.
1:38:16 Master Cho: Then the hotter it gets, the faster the wind comes in and blows out, so the smell on the floor blows away.
그러면 뜨거워지면 뜨거울수록 바람이 빨리 들어와서 날아가니까 바닥에 있는 냄새가 날아가 버리지.
1:38:26 Kim Chang (interpreter): So the hot air on top, when it gets hot, the air moves very fast. From here the new air comes in, and then they bring out the air, go out very fast, so all the smell in the pen goes out fast also.
1:38:46 Master Cho: This way, fresh air always comes in.
이렇게 되니까 항상 신선한 공기가 들어오지.
1:38:51 Kim Chang (interpreter): With this system always there's a fresh air.
1:38:55 Master Cho: Then the moisture on the floor blows off, the smell blows off, so it becomes a very clean livestock pen.
그렇게 되면 이 바닥에 있는 습기가 날아가고 냄새가 날아가고, 그러니까 아주 청결한 축사가 되는 거예요.
1:39:03 Kim Chang (interpreter): so when you do this way there is always clean air and also always dry moisture goes out also so very clean
1:39:14 Master Cho: So if you take this and put up a building, the blueprints all exist. It is a patented invention. If you want to use it, you have to pay a small patent fee.
그래서 이런 걸 갖다가 저기 집을 짓는다 그러면은 그 설계도가 다 있으니까 그건 발명특허야. 여러분들이 활용하려면 특허료를 조금 줘야 활용할 수 있다는 것입니다.
1:39:26 Kim Chang (interpreter): He developed this, I mean, the livestock pen. It has a patent. So I have to charge you a little bit if you want that, you know, blueprint. If you pay me the fee, I'm going to give 30% of it to CGNF Hawaii.
1:39:59 Master Cho: And when you pay that, to the CGNF Hawaii office I'll give 30% and go.
그리고 그거를 내면은 그 CGNF 하와이 사무실에다가 30%를 주고 갈 거예요.
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