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Sawdust + IMO4 = A Pig Pen Nobody Cleans for 3 Years

Master Cho Han-kyu, interpreted by Kim Chang, Founder of Korean Natural Farming (Janong)

Master Cho spoke Korean, with an interpreter. We translated every Korean line again and checked it, so you read what he said, not only what the room heard.

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This part runs from 2:58:22 to 3:18:46 of the session video.

Fifteen more minutes of slides, now pigs. Cho shows the wing-curved roof, houses 2 m apart with perilla between, and the floor bed of logs, sawdust and IMO4 that lets one housewife keep 300 pigs with no cleaning for 3 years. Then free sow pens, a Chinese pen at minus 40, a fermented feed box, food scraps and pig dung turned into feed, piglets on the first nipple, and a stress-hormone slide. The session ends: 'that is love', and the rest tomorrow.

What he taught

The lesson

How does Cho house and feed pigs so the pen needs no cleaning and one person can run 300 head?

The setting

The last 20 minutes of Friday evening. Swine slides: a curved metal roof, two houses with a gap, a floor being laid, a barn of 300 pigs (3:03:30), a sow house, a snowy pen in China, a feed box, food scraps, pig dung beside IMO4, visitors sitting in a pen, crated sows, and a KBS stress-hormone chart (10배, 6.5배).

Recipes and rates
  • Pig-house floor bed — Wood logs on the bottom, sawdust on top, Microbes (IMO4) on the sawdust; the microbes spread through it all. Done before the pigs go in. Then no cleaning and no manure removal: 'not once in 3 years'.
  • Fermented feed box — Layers of feed materials (Cho names corn silage and compound feed; the interpreter puts IMO4 at the bottom), fermented, then cut down through the layers to mix and fed.
  • Food-scrap and dung feed — Restaurant scraps piled and fermented with IMO4 become high-grade pig feed; sawdust in the mix lowers the salt (interpreter). Pig dung with IMO4 ferments into feed in 5 to 10 hours.
Key points
  1. The pig-house roof curves like a chicken's wing

    Sun heats the metal roof, the hot air goes out fast and fresh air comes in.

    ▶ 2:58:36 From the slides

  2. Space houses so the front one's shade never falls on the next: about 2 m

    The 2 m is the interpreter's; Cho's number wasn't heard.

    ▶ 2:59:22 As spoken

  3. Plant perilla (들깨) in the gap

    The wind brushes the perilla leaves on its way in; Cho ties it to omega-3 and very fresh air.

    ▶ 3:00:08 As spoken

  4. Floor bed: logs, then sawdust, then IMO4

    Microbes spread through the whole bed.

    ▶ 3:01:19 From the slides

  5. Take the swine course before you start; Joe McGinn, Steve and Drake can guide you

    Cho calls them CGNF researchers.

    ▶ 3:02:04 As spoken

  6. One housewife keeps 300 pigs alone

    Fed once a day, no cleaning, no manure removal, not once in 3 years.

    ▶ 3:03:26 From the slides

  7. Sows run free in a pen with sun on one side and shade on the other

    They choose where to lie. 'A completely free-range pig house.'

    ▶ 3:06:33 From the slides

  8. At minus 40 °C in China the pigs sleep comfortably on the fermenting floor

    Sawdust with microbes ferments and gives heat; steam rises when they dig. Cool in summer, warm in winter.

    ▶ 3:07:31 From the slides

  9. Layer the feed, ferment, cut down through it to mix

    The whole system can be seen at farms in Muju, North Jeolla Province.

    ▶ 3:09:45 From the slides

  10. Restaurant scraps fermented with IMO4 become high-grade pig feed

    Cho suggests it for Hong Kong's apartment food waste.

    ▶ 3:10:54 As spoken

  11. Pig dung mixed with IMO4 ferments into pig feed in 5 to 10 hours

    Slide: IMO4 on one side, dark dung on the other.

    ▶ 3:11:50 From the slides

  12. Pens clean enough to sit in: no smell, no complaints from neighbours

    A visiting professor sat on the pen floor with the pigs.

    ▶ 3:12:25 From the slides

  13. Put the first-born, weakest piglet on the first nipple

    Each piglet keeps its own nipple and never changes (interpreter).

    ▶ 3:15:01 As spoken

  14. Crated sows grow huge and weak and crush their piglets

    No room to move, no muscle.

    ▶ 3:16:37 As spoken

  15. Stress-response hormone in NF pigs: 10, 6.5 and 7 times conventional

    Slide panels show 10배 and 6.5배; the third is hidden by the interpreter. NF pigs come to the owner when he steps in.

    ▶ 3:17:18 From the slides

Hold it loosely
  • The Korean pass breaks down after about 3:13:00, so Cho's own words for the last five minutes (piglets, crated sows, stress hormone) are mostly lost; only the interpreter's English is kept there.
  • 'Not once in 3 years' is Cho's figure here; in Hawaiʻi in 2016 he said seven years, and his book says the bed comes out only for field use.
  • The stress-hormone numbers come from a TV documentary slide; method not shown.
  • Cho says the pigs on the fermenting floor don't get sick; no health data were shown.
For your farm
  • Space pig houses so they don't shade each other, and plant perilla in the gap.
  • Lay logs, then sawdust, then IMO4 before the pigs go in; the bed assists the pigs and saves cleaning.
  • Feed once a day and let the floor do the work.
  • Ferment food scraps with IMO4 for pig feed; add sawdust to cut the salt.
  • Take the swine course, or ask someone who has, before you start.

What the room didn't hear

Where the English in the room left out or changed what Master Cho said in Korean.

  • ▶ 3:04:09

    The room heard You don't have to remove their waste about three years.

    Cho said How long do you go without taking out the dung? Not once in 3 years.

    'Not once' became 'about'.

  • ▶ 3:09:45

    The room heard At the bottom they put IMO4 and then in the next layer, they used corn [silage].

    Cho said Corn [silage] goes in, then [compound feed] and this and that; you ferment it and cut down through it.

    Cho names compound feed; IMO4 at the bottom is the interpreter's.

Next to Master Cho's books

  • Agrees

    One housewife, 300 pigs, fed once a day, no cleaning Same claim in his 2017 Korea advanced course: one housewife can manage 300 pigs because they're fed once a day and the pen isn't cleaned.

    2017/Advanced w: Cho/advanced fruit/IMG_3303 @ 0:59:54

  • Agrees

    Pig houses 2 m apart, perilla between Same shade rule and perilla in the gap in his 2017 Korea course; in 2018 he said at least 3 m.

    2017/Advanced w: Cho/advanced fruit/IMG_3303 @ 0:53:36

  • Differs

    No manure removal: here, not once in 3 years His book says the bed needs no cleaning and is taken out only for field use. In the 2016 Hawaiʻi seminar the figure was seven years, not three.

    Cho, Janong Natural Farming (2003), p. 194

“The husband mustn't take the money; he has to give it all to the wife.”

▶ 3:04:56

“When the owner goes in, they're glad to see him. That's love.”

▶ 3:18:11

“They are doing microorganism sauna.”

▶ 3:08:40

In this part

  1. 2:58:22Pig house: wing-curved roof, 2 m gaps, perilla
  2. 3:01:19The floor bed, and the swine course
  3. 3:03:26300 pigs, one housewife, no cleaning for 3 years
  4. 3:06:27Free sow pens; minus 40 in China
  5. 3:09:29Feed box, food scraps and pig dung as feed
  6. 3:12:19Clean pens, first nipples, crushed piglets
  7. 3:17:17Stress hormone in pigs: that is love

Transcript

English translation, checked against the Korean as spoken.