A Yolk You Can Lift: Hen Houses and Egg Tests

2:30:16 So this floor is a soil floor, and [as the droppings break down] they take sand baths there. Also our floor is soil and all the waste breaks down. So the floor is very soft. And so they are doing bathing on their floor. Right now in Korea... Pesticide eggs turned up among the big companies' eggs. Pesticide got inside the eggs. Oh, in the store they sell this egg, there is already pesticide, some kind of poison is in the egg, the regular egg.

그래서 이 바닥이 흙바닥이고, [똥이 분해되니까] 거기서 모래 [목욕을 해요]. 지금 한국에서는... 큰 기업에 있는 계란에서 살충제 계란이 나온 거예요. 계란 안에 살충제가 들어간 겁니다.

2:31:12 Because they raise them shut in [cages], mites get on their bodies. To keep the mites off, they put pesticide in the feed. In the conventional way, when they are in the cage, so they have all this bug problem, mites, etc. To kill those bugs, they put the poison in their food. So, we need to finish. His wife keeps saying, finish it, finish it. But he keeps going. I have to obey that. What time is it? 9:15. I'm tired. Yeah, we have to tell them.

[케이지에] 가둬서 기르기 때문에 몸에 진드기가 끼는 거예요. 진드기가 못 끼게 하려고 사료에다 살충제를 넣은 거예요.

2:31:58 Make it our fault. Tell them we're all tired or something. Yeah. Everybody just go to bed right now. Yeah. Just tell them we've had too much, we can't keep up. Our brains are tired. I am tired. My brain's tired. I had the same problem with...

2:32:45 I'm always ready to come. There's more. But now... There's more. Just three [more] points. But now it's not only eggs that have pesticide in them. Tomatoes, cucumbers, all of it has pesticide in it. Not only eggs, but tomatoes and all kinds of crops grown the conventional way, it has a poison. In Japan now, more than 80% [of tomatoes have pesticide in them]. So in Japan, 80% of tomato has a pesticide in there.

더 있어. 그런데 지금 이제... 그런데 지금 이제 계란에만 살충제가 들어 있는 게 아니라 토마토, 오이, 다 살충제가 들어가 있어. 지금 일본에서는 [토마토] 80% 이상이 [농약이 들어 있어].

2:33:36 So even in Hawaii, who grow this tomato in a conventional way, there is a poison in there. [So housewives are scared when they buy food.] So the housewives get scared so they cannot buy those kind of food. So to prevent that, the woman should rise and make a demonstration. I think before next year comes, this year something like that will happen. You'll see. Before next year comes, that will [happen].

[그래서 주부들이 식품을 살 때 겁이 나요.] 여러분이 봐도 내년 [오기] 전에 그게 [터질] 거예요.

2:34:39 Because of they are using so much chemical, even the cabbage, Chinese cabbage, you cannot eat that anymore. He is saying, soon there is a very bad food shortage. We... our food runs short? Oh! Hold on a minute. There is a huge pollution is going to happen. It is on the way. That is a big problem.

저희는... 우리 음식이 모자라요?

2:35:26 Because if you [don't] change this soon, the children who are growing right now, they will have a terrible health problem. [Unclear] ... the children's health ... So you guys be bright and then stand up. Rise. [He says] if you're tired, go and rest.

[불명확] ... 아이들의 건강에 ... 피곤해서 가서 놀라고.

2:36:15 What's the matter? What is it? These chickens, you know, they give recognition to the one who works well. So when they go to sleep, does the one that worked hard [sit up high or down low]?

왜 그래, 뭐야? 이 닭들은 말이지, 일 잘한다고 인정을 해줘. 그래서 잠잘 때 일을 많이 한 [닭이] 꼭 [윗자리에 앉을까, 아랫자리에 앉을까]?

2:37:04 So, the one who works hard, are they perching in the highest place or the lowest place? So the ones that sleep in the highest place, they produce the most eggs. Chickens like to go up high. And the hen that goes up high is the hen that lays the most eggs. Because it works hard, they treat it with respect and send it up top. So the low-rank chickens will send them up to the higher perching area. Chickens know how to honor the one that works hard, but people treat the one who works hard as lesser. Even the chicken knows how to respect the person who works so hard, but the human is

그러면 닭은 높은 곳에 올라가는 걸 좋아하거든요. 근데 높은 곳에 올라가는 닭은 알을 많이 낳는 닭이에요. 일을 많이 한다고 대우를 해서 위로 올려 보내 줘. 그런데 닭은 일 많이 하는 걸 대우해 줄 줄 아는데, 사람은 일 많이 한 사람을 [깔보는] 게...

2:38:01 the other way. The ones who work hard, they look down. The prime example is Korea: the National Assembly members. And the most good example is the Korean congressman. So the ones who only talk a lot and lie around [go up to the high seats]. So in Korea, the ones who only talk and they don't really work, they go to a higher position somehow. [Unclear] The ones who should be at the very bottom come up on top. Yeah, so they are supposed to sweep away at the bottom, but they are the ones who go on top and then sweep up there.

그 대표가 이제 한국, 예를 들어 국회의원들이요. 그래서 말만 많이 하고 [일은 안 하고] 드러누운 [사람이 높은 자리에 올라가]. [불명확] 제일 아래에서 [쓸어야 할 사람이] 올라오는 거예요.

2:38:46 So when you do natural farming in Hawaiʻi, don't show off. Let's do it from a humble place. So when you do natural farming, don't be an arrogant person. Be humble and continue work, spread this natural farming. Please develop this natural farming. Why did we put them here, in a wire cage? They have the habit of brooding, sitting on eggs. They have that habit, and if you just leave them be...

그래서 여러분들이 하와이에서 자연농업 할 때 잘난 체하지 말고, [겸손한] 자리에서 이렇게 하자. 이 자연농업을 [발전]시켜 주시기 바랍니다. 여기에 왜 철망에다가 [넣었냐 하면]... 알을 품는 습성이 있거든. 품는 습성이 있는데 그걸 그대로 놔두면...

2:39:32 The hens sit on the eggs that were laid and hug them close, so you have to isolate them. You have to isolate them, but you can't put them outside. [When you put them back] the others peck them from behind and kill them, fighting. So you keep them in here where you can see them, and when [the habit has passed] you let them down. Because some hens, they like to sit on the egg. So they want to prevent them. But we cannot take them outside of the coop. If we take them out of the coop and put them back, they start to bully. So they will stop sitting action.

닭들이 알을 낳은 걸 품고 안고 [앉으니까]. 그러니까 그걸 격리시켜야 되거든. 격리시켜야 되는데 이걸 바깥에 내면 안 돼. 뒤에서 [쪼아서] 잡아 죽여. 싸워 가지고. 그러니까 여기 [넣어] 두고 보다가 [습성이 없어지면] 내려놓는 거예요.

2:40:17 So until they finish their sitting, then they let them out. That's why they have a cage. That's to break the cycle of sitting. Yeah, the brooding. Chicken jail. You don't want, because this place, they sell the egg, so they cannot sit on it. So you put them in here and feed them lots of protein. If you feed the hen meat, the brooding habit goes away fast. So in that case, give them extra protein, and they will not sit on it. This is the laying box.

그렇게 해서 여기다 [넣고] 단백질을 많이 먹여. 닭에게 고기를 먹이면 [알 품는] 습성이 빨리 없어져요. 이게 산란상자예요.

2:41:04 That's the egg laying box. When the chicken lays eggs, they try to put their feet on it. So the chicken doesn't like when they lay eggs, they don't like bright lights. So we covered it with this cloth to make it a little dark. That's why we put the dark color of a curtain, make it dark inside. So they lay in comfort and are less stressed. So when they lay eggs, they feel comfortable. That's why we're using that. Next. So they laid lots of eggs in the egg laying box.

그래서 이 [포장]을 씌워가지고 좀 컴컴하게 만들어 줬어요. 좀 알 낳을 때 편안하게 낳기 때문에 신경을 덜 쓰는 거예요.

2:41:57 And we laid rice hulls on this floor. So on the floor, you put the rice hull. That way the eggs are clean, so you don't need to wash them. Chickens eat a lot of greens. They eat greens endlessly. But rather than giving the greens raw like this, you have to give fermented greens. That has much more nutritional value. So even that greens, you need to ferment, and then their nutrient values go up, so it's way better feed.

그리고 이 바닥에다 왕겨를 깐 거예요. 그렇게 되면 계란이 깨끗하기 때문에 닦을 필요가 없어요. 닭은 풀을 많이 먹기 때문에, 풀을 아주 [끝도] 없이 먹어. 그런데 이렇게 [생]풀을 주는 것이 아니라 발효시킨 풀을 줘야 영양가치가 많은 겁니다.

2:42:49 How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you ferment it? There's no time to talk about that now. There's a poultry [specialist] too, so if people come and even do the hands-on practice, that would be just right. Because we don't have time right now, I cannot talk to you about it. So if you guys gather about 30 people who want to run poultry, he will come back and then he will do the hands-on classes. Around April next year a poultry specialist from Korea will come again, so come then. So I'm planning to have advanced poultry classes in Korea around April.

그거를 어떻게 하냐고요? 발효를 어떻게 시키나요? 그건 지금 얘기할 시간이 없어. 양계 [전문가]도 있어 가지고, 와서 실습까지 해 가면 딱 [좋은] 거. 내년 4월쯤 한국에서 양계 전문가가 다시 올 테니까 그때 와요.

2:43:37 So if you want to learn, then come to Korea. So this is how someone makes feed at home. These are sweet potato vines, sweet potatoes we couldn't sell, this is red clay, and this is [IMO4]. You mix them like this, make feed, and feed it. So this is what we use for their feed. The potato vine, also the ones that we cannot sell, those sweet potatoes, and the red soil, and the IMO4, we mix all together and they became a feed.

그래서 이게 사료를 집에서 만드는 사람이 이런 건데. 이게 고구마 넝쿨이고, 팔지 못하는 고구마, 이게 황토, 이게 [토착미생물 4호?]. 이렇게 섞어 가지고서 사료를 만들어서 먹이는 거예요.

2:44:23 This floor is after we harvest the chicken, after they exit, that's the floor. This is the floor after the broilers were raised and shipped out. You take this and sift it [through a coarse sieve]... Then [the straw stays on top] and the droppings all fall through. To the droppings that fell through, add IMO4, add lactic acid bacteria, add yeast, and [ferment it] once more.

[이건] 육계를 길러서 출하하고 난 다음에 바닥이야. 이렇게 이걸 갖다가 [어레미로] 쳐... 그러면 [짚은 위에 남고] 똥은 다 빠지잖아. 빠진 똥에다가 토착미생물 4번을 넣고 유산균을 넣고 효모를 집어넣고 다시 한 번 [발효시켜].

2:45:17 You shake it, put it on the mat, you shake it and then all the straws are going to leave on top and all the nitrogen is going to be [boiled] down. Then you add IMO4, lactic acid bacteria and yeast and you mix it and then it became your pig's feed. So what you make this way you don't give to others ... [unclear]. So in pig's case, you just use their floor in this way. You don't have to buy pig feed. That is excellent pig feed. Next.

그래서 이렇게 만든 건 다른 사람 주지 않고 ... [불명확].

2:46:02 Even if you pick up this yolk, it doesn't break. The natural farming egg, even if you hold the yolk with the hand, it doesn't break. Even if you pick it up with chopsticks, it doesn't break. Even you use chopsticks and hold the egg yolk, it doesn't break. So if you can't tell whether an egg is good or bad, crack it onto a plate. Then it has three layers. Here a white layer, and then another, higher layer. The yolk [should stand up]; that's a good one. So if you want to find out that egg is healthy egg, you can see three layers.

이 노른자를 갖다가 집어 올려도 깨지지 않아. 젓가락으로 집어서 올려도 깨지지 않아. 그래서 여러분들이 계란이 좋은 건가 나쁜 건가 모르면 접시에다가 계란을 깨 넣어. 그러면 이 층이 삼층이야. 여기 하얀 층이고, 또 좀 더 높은 층이고. 노른자가 [솟아야] 좋은 거...

2:46:49 There is a very thin liquid, you can see, but then there's another layer of the white, and your egg yolk stands out, it's not flat. It has to be a three-layer egg to be good. So when you see the three layers of egg formation, that is a good egg. This is the way to check whether an egg is fresh. Look now. Toothpick. Toothpick. Take a toothpick, stick it in here, and pull. It has to come along like this. There is another way to find out if this is a healthy egg or not. Use toothpick. Put it in here. You can pull this egg around.

삼층 계란이 되어야 좋은 거예요. 지금 이건 신선한 계란인가를 알아보는 [방법이지]. 지금 보라고요. 투스피커(이쑤시개)를 갖다가 여기다 꽂아 가지고, 끌고 [가면] 이렇게 끌려와야 돼.

2:47:40 And the eggs sold in the market now all break as soon as you stick it in. And if you put the toothpick, it just, before you go forward, it just breaks down. Eating that kind of egg and saying you've had an egg is the same as filling up on water. If you eat those kind of unhealthy eggs and you feel full, it's like only drinking water. Oh, because the yellow yolk breaks very easily, do not eat that egg. Eggs that break this easily, you must not eat.

그리고 지금 이 시장에서 파는 계란은 이거 꽂자마자 다 깨져요. 그런 계란을 먹고서 계란을 먹었다고 얘기하면, 물 마셔서 배부르거나 마찬가지예요. 이렇게 쉽게 깨지는 계란은 먹지 말아야 되는 거예요.

2:48:30 So eggs like that don't have protein in them; they have poison in them. There is no protein, it has a toxic, very toxic. And when you buy eggs, sometimes you'll notice blood drops mixed in here, right? Do you ever see when you bought the egg and you crack it open, you see some blood spot on the white Yeah. It happened because the mother chicken was surprised before laying the egg. The reason is, before the mama chicken gave her egg, the chicken had some kind of shock. That's why it has a blood spot on it. It happened because the hen got startled before laying the egg.

그러니까 그런 계란은 단백질이 아니라 독이 들어가 있는 거야. 그리고 여러분들이 계란을 사 왔을 때 가끔 여기에 핏방울이 섞인 거 알 수 있죠? 알을 낳기 전에 놀라서 그런 거예요.

2:49:27 The reason is, say a dog passed by the coop, or some [animal] kept coming and going; the hens get startled. Or the keeper went in wearing a skirt. When the skirt flutters, they think a hawk has come. So they got startled and the blood formed. Because if they saw the dog running around the chicken coop, or if they saw a mongoose, or a woman goes in with a skirt, the skirt is kind of moving, they think there's a hawk near, so that's why they get shocked, so they have one of those blood spots. But chickens [don't] like red.

그 이유가 [닭장 옆에] 개가 지나갔다든지, 뭐 [이런] 게 왔다 갔다 하면 닭이 놀라거든. 그리고 또 관리원이라는 사람이 치마를 입고 들어갔다. 치마가 [펄럭이면] 매가 온 줄 안다고. 그래서 놀라서 피가 생긴 거예요. 그런데 닭은 빨간색을 [안] 좋아해요.

2:50:17 If the keeper comes in wearing a red skirt, the chickens get excited. So because they like the red color, they believe that who is taking care of chicken, if they wear the red clothes and [go] in the chicken coop, they get excited. Because they get excited, when they lay the egg... Because they get excited — when she lays the egg, the [inside of the vent] turns out, as the egg comes. There's a little bump then. Oh, so when, when chicken give birth to the egg, sometimes their ovary is turned, Blood just pours out. Once she bleeds, next thing she's dead — the hens beside her all peck her.

관리자가 빨간 스커트를 입고 들어왔다 그러면 닭이 흥분해. 흥분하기 때문에, 그 알을 낳을 때... 흥분하기 때문에, 그 알을 낳을 때 그 [항문 안쪽이] 뒤집히잖아, 알 낳을 때. 그때 돌기가 있거든. 피가 막 쏟아. 피가 났다 그러면 그 다음 죽어. 옆에 닭들이 다 쪼아서.

2:51:14 turn, open, and then turn, and then something is broken and it has a lot of blood come out. And when other chickens saw that, they started to come peck, peck, peck on their [vent], and then chickens are dying. And [the hen dies?]. Once that kind of [habit] starts, you have to put it right fast, don't you? So to take care of that problem, you cut the red paper and then put it on the floor. What you do then: cut up colored paper, red colored paper, and scatter it on the floor, and because there's so much red around, they don't peck at the hen's vent.

그리고 [닭은 다 죽어요?]. 그런 [버릇이] 생겼다 보면 얼른 그걸 바로잡아야 될 거 아니야? 그럴 때 어떻게 하냐 하면은 색종이, 빨간 색종이 썰어서 바닥에다 뿌려 놓아주면 빨간색이 많기 때문에 닭 똥꼬를 안 쫀다고.

2:51:58 There's that method too. And the person who raises the chickens, the keeper, Then they don't see their blood there, opening, so they peck on the floor. So who is taking care of chicken should wear green color pants, they like the green color, as for [pants] — chickens like green [pants] best. Do not wear a skirt. Next. So, this one, chicken has lots of brown rice. Chickens fed brown rice — their intestines are this long.

그런 방법도 있으니까요. 닭을 기르는 사람, 관리자는 [바지]에다가, [바지는] 녹색 [바지]를 닭이 가장 좋아해. 현미를 먹인 닭, 닭의 내장은 이렇게 길어.

2:52:45 That's why their intestine is so long. But compound feed is very rich, so there'd be a lot of fat. This one is the conventional, they [buy] feed and they feed. If you feed them, there's lots of fat. Because the intestines are long, digestion takes longer, so this gizzard is big. Because in natural farming chicken, their intestine is so long, their nutrient is going to their body. So their sandbox, the gizzard, gets really big.

그런데 배합사료는 영양가치가 많으니까, 그러니까 지방이 많이 있겠어. 내장이 길으니까 소화 과정이 길어져 가지고 이 모래집이 커.

2:53:32 And isn't this one small? Isn't it caked in fat? Look at that conventional chicken gizzard. It's small and lots of fat is surrounded. So this is what's called fatty liver. Fatty liver. That is the fat... ? Oh, that is fatty liver. Liver — what's that? Liver. It has a fatty liver. When you became lots of fat, their liver swell. When it gets like this, the liver swells. So, people, if you are greedy and greedy, and then those kind of people, we say his liver is swollen. So when a person turns nasty-tempered, or gets very greedy,

그리고 이것은 조그맣지 않나요? 기름이 많이 끼었지 않나요? 그래서 이게 지방간이라는 거예요. 지방간. 간이 뭐니? 간이. 이렇게 되면 간이 부어. 그래서 사람이 성질이 고약해졌거나 욕심을 많이 부린다 그러면

2:54:19 we say his liver has come out of his belly. I think it's a Korean saying. That makes sense to you? Is it the same anywhere, even in Hawaii? Do you understand what I'm saying? Even in Hawaii some people their liver come out and swell. 12. Just go over there.

간이 배 밖에 나왔다는 거지.

2:55:04 So this is the one raised by Natural Farming — its gizzard, the gizzard that digests the feed, is very big, and this one, from the cage farm — its liver is packed solid with fat. So the natural farming gizzard is really big and the conventional chicken has a lot of fat surrounded. And here, the stress-response hormone is about 9 times higher in Natural Farming. The one that beats stress. Oh, okay. So, if you look at the stress hormone, the natural farming, they have the...

그래서 이게 자연농업으로 기르는 그 모래집, 사료 소화시키는 모래집이 굉장히 크고 이거는 그 케이지 양계장 거는 간에 기름이 꽉 끼었어. 그런데 여기 이제 스트레스 대응 호르몬이 자연농업이 한 9배는 높아. 스트레스를 이기는.

2:55:51 They — against the stress hormone is nine times higher than conventional chicken. So this one has a bad temper; at the slightest fright they all [go flying]. But this one [the Natural Farming hen] has no reason to fly about or get startled like that. So because of the conventional farming chicken has a lot of stress, if they have a little bit shock, they are very agitated. But the natural farming chickens are very calm. They don't do that.

그래서 이건 성격이 나쁘기 때문에 조금만 놀라도 다 [날아가고] 그런데 이것은 [자연농업 닭]이라서 그렇게 날리거나 놀랄 이유가 없어요.

2:56:39 So this — the cage-farm egg, the yolk [goes flat] like this… So this side is conventional farming egg yolk and the other side is natural farming egg yolk. If you look at it, natural farming egg yolk is more darker orange color, darker yellow color. And if you want it to come out reddish like this… It can go all the way to red, the color. And then the egg price shoots up. If you can make this an egg of red color, you can get a high price. So if you raise chickens at home, So if you want to make the egg yolk reddish,

그래서 이게, 케이지 양계 계란은 이렇게 노른자가 [퍼져]… 그런데 이렇게 붉은색이 나오려고 하게 되면… 이게 빨간색까지 되거든, 색깔이. 그리고 계란값이 확 올라가. 그러니까 여러분들이 집에서 닭을 기른다고 하면은

2:57:25 there's sweet potato — purple sweet potato, right? Feed them that and this color gets very deep. feed them Okinawan sweet potato, purple sweet potato. Feed purple sweet potato and you get very good quality eggs. So when you start feeding them purple sweet potato, you have a really good quality egg. Then we will go. I'm going to teach you slides. It will take only 15 minutes more and then we finish.

고구마, 자주색 고구마 있잖아. 그걸 먹이면 이 색깔이 아주 진해. 자주색 고구마를 먹이면 아주 질 좋은 계란이 나와요.

2:58:12 Now, if you want to go to sleep, go to sleep. If you want to go to sleep, you go to sleep.

자, 자러 가고 싶으면 자러 가.