Chicks on Brown Rice, Hens on Green Corn, Sun on the Floor

1:37:25 So now we're doing livestock. Here is the roof, and this roof is galvanized sheet iron. Iron. When the sun beats down, the inside gets hot. It makes the air hot. It expands, right? So when sun hit that iron metal, the roof gets hot. So underneath, the air is starting to expand. As it expands it gets light, so it flies off, doesn't it? So when the air expands, it becomes very light, so all the hot air just goes out.

여기가 지붕인데 이 지붕이 함석이야. 아이언. 그런데 햇볕이 쬐면 이 안이 뜨거워지지. 공기가 뜨거워지게 합니다. 팽창하잖아. 팽창해서 가벼워지니까 날아가지 않나?

1:38:16 Then the hotter it gets, the faster the wind comes in and blows out, so the smell on the floor blows away. So the hot air on top, when it gets hot, the air moves very fast. From here the new air comes in, and then they bring out the air, go out very fast, so all the smell in the pen goes out fast also. This way, fresh air always comes in. With this system always there's a fresh air. Then the moisture on the floor blows off, the smell blows off, so it becomes a very clean livestock pen.

그러면 뜨거워지면 뜨거울수록 바람이 빨리 들어와서 날아가니까 바닥에 있는 냄새가 날아가 버리지. 이렇게 되니까 항상 신선한 공기가 들어오지. 그렇게 되면 이 바닥에 있는 습기가 날아가고 냄새가 날아가고, 그러니까 아주 청결한 축사가 되는 거예요.

1:39:03 so when you do this way there is always clean air and also always dry moisture goes out also so very clean So if you take this and put up a building, the blueprints all exist. It is a patented invention. If you want to use it, you have to pay a small patent fee. He developed this, I mean, the livestock pen. It has a patent. So I have to charge you a little bit if you want that, you know, blueprint.

그래서 이런 걸 갖다가 저기 집을 짓는다 그러면은 그 설계도가 다 있으니까 그건 발명특허야. 여러분들이 활용하려면 특허료를 조금 줘야 활용할 수 있다는 것입니다.

1:39:55 If you pay me the fee, I'm going to give 30% of it to CGNF Hawaii. And when you pay that, to the CGNF Hawaii office I'll give 30% and go. That way this place lives, and I live too. When I do that, the decision that Hawaii can run and also I can make living. Got it? Got it. This is the chicken pen.

그리고 그거를 내면은 그 CGNF 하와이 사무실에다가 30%를 주고 갈 거예요. 그렇게 해야 여기도 살고 나도 살고. 알았습니까? 알았습니다. 이것이 닭장이야.

1:40:44 There is a green part, that is the window. It can close and open. This green part here is the roof; it's a skylight. It opens and closes. So because the other side is all open, and then when we open the window on top, And from the front here the sunlight moves along; as it shifts across, the sunlight goes in, so the whole pen gets sunlight at least once a day. when the sun hits, the sun will hit each part of the inside of the pen. So it cleanses, sanitizes the pen. [Audio unclear] Behind it is a bamboo forest.

여기 녹색이 지붕인데, 천창인데, 열렸다 닫혔다 해. 그리고 이제 여기서 앞에서 햇빛이 가고 이걸 여러 번 이동해서 햇빛이 가서 닭장 전체가 다 하루에 햇빛을 한 번씩은 다 받아요. [불명확] 뒤에 대나무 숲이…

1:41:30 So even if you raise [many] chickens here, there's no manure smell. No odor. So even we have lots of chicken in there, there is no smell at all. It is a poultry house with no flies and no smell. So scholars and the heads of big companies from Germany came to tour it. So from Germany, the scientists came, and then looked at this chicken pen. Those people came, took one look at this, slapped their knees, and asked how this was developed in little Korea. They were very surprised.

그러니깐 여기 닭을 [많이] 길러도 똥내가 안 나. 냄새가 없어. 파리가 없고 냄새가 없는 계사예요. 그래서 독일에서 학자들하고 큰 회사 사장들하고 해서 견학하러 왔어요. 그 사람들이 와서 이걸 딱 보고 난 다음에 무릎을 치면서 어떻게 해서 조그만한 한국에서 이게 개발이 됐냐고.

1:42:15 In Korea, who developed such a magnificent chicken pen? So what those people wanted was, to roll this method out in Europe, So they asked him, can we have your ownership of this livestock pen design? they asked me to give them the exclusive rights. They were asking him, can we have that ownership? So I refused. Because I cannot give it to merchants. He said, I cannot give to that who wanted to make money, the businessmen.

그래가지고 그 사람들이 뭐냐면 유럽에다가 이 방법을 전개할 수 있는 전매권을 자기들에게 달라고 하더라고요. 그래서 내가 거부했어요. 왜 그러냐 하면 장사꾼들에게 줄 수는 없다.

1:43:11 I cannot give this idea and the blueprint to the business people. What I mean is, I will hand it on to farmers. So they kept contacting me, but I did not respond. After they contacted me several times, I always said no. Since on this earth every technology only spreads once Europe recognizes it, they said they would take responsibility for that too, so hand it over to them. And then they said all the high technology coming from Europe. So let us have that

농민들에게 전해주겠다는 이야기입니다. 그래가지고 그 사람들이 내게 연락이 왔는데 내가 응하지 않았어. 지구상에서 모든 기술이 유럽에서 인정을 해야 전파가 되니까 그것도 자기들이 책임지고 해줄 테니까 넘겨달라는 거예요.

1:43:59 ownership. They will keep on asking him. So likewise in Hawaii, if a merchant asks me for this, I won't give it. If farmers want it, [I will]. I mean, even in Hawaii, if a businessman wants his ownership, I will [not] give that. Only the farmer wants it, and I'll give it to them. So people like Joe McGinn and Steve Boloson, and the coffee farms here, Drake, [...], the citrus grower over there: I'll hand it to people like that. Only when farmers live well does Hawaii live well.

그래서 마찬가지로 하와이에서도 장사꾼이 이걸 달라고 하면 안 줘. 농민들이 희망한다면 [준다]. 그래서 조 맥긴이나 스티브 볼로슨이나 이런 사람들하고 여기 커피 농장이나 드레이크나 […]나 저기 밀감이나 그런 사람들에게 전해줘가지고서 농민들이 잘 살아야 하와이가 잘 살아.

1:44:44 I would like to give this to Joe McGinn, Steve, or Drake or Carol. I want to give those to farmers. Mango Steve. Mango Steve, the farmer. When the chicks hatch, the very first thing is brown rice. If you give a one-day-old chick, the first thing you give them is brown rice. But to veterinarians and livestock nutritionists, if you say you feed brown rice, they all object, saying you'll kill all the chicks.

부화가 될 때 제일 먼저 현미요. 그런데 수의사나 가축영양학자들한테 현미를 먹인다 그러면 병아리 다 죽인다고 전부 다 반대야.

1:45:29 So if I tell the animal doctor or scientist, or a scientist, you're going to kill all those chicks. But these chicks are chicks raised on brown rice. The scholars' position is that you should raise them on supplements and the like. So should I take the side of the chicks that eat well and grow well, or the side of the scholars? So when I give the brown rice to the chick, they grow very well. But the scientists tell me, give this, this feed and that feed, and etc. Should I listen to those scientists?

그런데 이 병아리는 현미를 먹고 자라는 병아리고 학자들은 영양제나 이런 걸 줘서 기르라고 하는 게 학자들 주장인데 그럼 잘 먹고 잘 크는 병아리 편을 들어야 돼? 학자들 편을 들어야 돼?

1:46:18 No. But today's poultry farmers trust the methods the scholars develop. Even if you do Natural Farming, they don't believe in it. Chicken farmers, they don't believe me. They only believe the scientists. But today, during the day, from here in Hawaii, But today, the president owner of this chicken farm, the owner of a farm raising 15,000 chickens came by.

그런데 지금 양계업자들은 학자들이 개발하는 방법을 믿어주지. 자연농업을 한다고 해도 그걸 믿어주지 않는다고. 그런데 오늘 낮에 하와이에서 15,000마리 닭을 기르는 사장님이 왔었다고.

1:47:03 I think he has 15,000 chickens. He came and visited him. So I asked him: is it going all right with Natural Farming? He said, 'All right? What do you mean, it's excellent.' He does the natural farming. So he asked him, how are your chickens? Oh, they are doing so well. He said with only IMO4 there's no smell and nothing gets sick. He said, I just use IMO4, and no smell and no disease. So he came today and asked me to go to his farm [after the seminar].

그래서 내가 물어봤어요. 자연농업으로 해서 괜찮으냐 했더니 괜찮은 게 뭐냐고 아주 좋다고. 그래서 IMO4만 써도 냄새도 안 나고 아픈 게 없다고 그러더라고요. 그래가지고 오늘 와서 [세미나 끝나면] 자기 농장을 가자는 거예요.

1:47:52 So what I told him was: if you take everyone attending here, buy them dinner and lunch, then I'll talk it over. When I said that, he just left. He said, after finish this seminar, come with me, let's go visit my farm. Okay, I misunderstood. Anyway, he told him, if I have to visit your farm, I have to take all my students and you have to buy lunch and dinner, then I will visit your farm. He didn't say anything and he left. Then he said, let's meet again and he left.

그래서 내가 뭐라고 했냐면 여기 참석한 사람들 다 데리고 가서 저녁 사주고 점심 사주고 하려면 내가 얘기해 보겠다고 얘기했더니 그냥 갔어.

1:48:38 Yes, so I see he only wants to receive, he doesn't want to give. None of you here would be like that, I'm sure. That's what I saw. I hope you guys not that way. Eo! Eo! 8:30? His wife said, stop. Okay, 8:30. [...] she says it's 8:30. [...] I'm going to finish all of this. Don't listen to her. I need to finish this.

여기 참석한 사람들은 그런 분 안 계시겠지. 에오! 에오! […] 8시 반이라고. […] 나 이거 다 해.

1:49:29 [Audio unclear] [...] the length of the intestines doubles. Oh, when you give, they give them all, feed the brown rice, their intestine developed doubled. The intestines getting longer means the digestion process gets longer. That means when the intestine is doubled, that means their digestive system is prolonged. Then you can make a laying hen that eats even what was never considered feed until now, and still lays eggs. Because it eats and digests even things that were never accepted as chicken feed, Because they don't consider that brown rice is not healthy, but they eat those brown rice

[불명확] … 내장의 길이가 배로 늘어나. 그러면 내장의 길이가 길어진다는 얘기는 소화 과정이 길어진다는 말이야. 그렇게 되면 지금까지는 사료로 보지 않았던 것까지도 먹고 알을 낳는, 알을 낳는 닭으로 만들 수가 있는 거야. 지금까지는 닭 사료로 인정되지 않았던 것까지도 먹고 소화를 시키니까

1:50:14 [partly unclear] the gut [develops], so feed costs less and there's no extra expense. and they grow healthy, so you save money, and they are also very healthy. Do you understand? Chicken doesn't have a mother's milk. Chicks have no mother's milk.

[불명확] 내장이 […] 그러니까 사료값이 덜 들어가고 비용이 안 생긴다고. 병아리는 엄마 젖이 없어요.

1:50:59 Chicken doesn't have a milk, but then the chick, when they born, they carry the But instead of mother's milk, when it hatches, it comes out carrying the yolk in its lower belly. yellow yolk at the bottom, and that's how they born. That is only enough to eat for 3 days. That yolk lasts only about 3 days. So when you buy them from the hatchery, That yolk is only three days food. for 3 days they won't die, because they have that mother's milk. So when you buy the chicks, three days they feed themselves with yolk, so they won't die for three days, even you don't feed them.

그런데 닭 병아리는 엄마 젖이 없는 대신에 부화돼서 나올 때 아랫배에 난황을 가져 나와. 그것이 3일 동안 먹을 것밖에 안 돼요. 그 노른자는 3일 정도만 먹어요. 그래서 부화장에서 사오면 3일 동안은 죽지 않아요, 엄마 젖이 있기 때문에.

1:51:41 So once 3 days have passed, you have to give them mother's milk. So after three days later you need to give egg yolk. You need to boil it and then shred it and give to them. And while they are on mother's milk, give them bamboo leaves. So while they are eating the egg yolk, both egg yolk, same time you need to give them bamboo leaves. Of all the leafy greens that have chlorophyll, the one with the toughest fiber is bamboo leaf, isn't it? So that bamboo leaf has a very tough fiber,

그래서 3일이 지나서 엄마 젖을 줘야 돼. 그리고 엄마 젖을 먹는 기간 동안에 대나무 이파리를 줘. 엽록소를 가지고 있는 풀 이파리 중에 섬유가 가장 강력한 놈이 대나무 잎 아니야.

1:52:27 same time there is chlorophyll, lots of chlorophyll is in there. So because they ate bamboo leaves when young, Because they train with very high-fiber greens, even tougher greens, they can consume while once they're grown, [greens] far [softer] than these bamboo leaves, [...] they can take in all of them and their chlorophyll. they are growing up. So you have to raise them into chickens that eat grass like a cow. So you need to raise them like eating greens, lots of greens like cow.

그래서 어려서 대나무 이파리를 먹었기 때문에 다 크면 말이지, 이 대나무 이파리보다 훨씬 […] 엽록소를 다 섭취할 수가 있다. 그래서 풀을 소만큼 먹는 닭으로 길러 놔야 되는 겁니다.

1:53:14 In Hawaii grass grows really well, doesn't it? In Hawaii, the grass grows very, very well. And the one that grows best is corn. The plant that grows very fast is corn. Now, which is tougher, bamboo leaves or corn leaves? So which one is tougher, bamboo leaves or corn leaves? Which one is tougher? Bamboo leaves. Bamboo leaves are stronger. Once they are grown, [compared with] bamboo, the weaker, softer... ...corn, they'd eat even better, I think. So because we feed them such tough greens,

하와이는 풀이 아주 잘 자라잖아. 가장 잘 자라는 풀이 옥수수야. 그런데 대나무 이파리가 질겨, 옥수수 이파리가 질겨? 큰 게 되면 대나무보다 약한, 연한 옥수수를 더 잘 먹을 것 같네요.

1:54:02 they will eat the corn leaves really, really well. So what I mean is, having corn planted, [once planted,] in 2 months it grows 1 m 10 cm. Plant it, and in two months it grows 1 m 10 cm. So when you plant the corn about two months later, their height is about 2 meters 10 centimeters. the two-meter, ten... one meter and ten centimeters. Then you cut it down and chop it. You chop it up small. So you chop that corn leaves Put in lactic acid bacteria and yeast and ferment it, and it's top-quality feed.

그러니까 말이지, 옥수수 심어놨다는 게 말이야 [심어가지고] 2개월이면 1m 10cm 자라니까요. (옥수수를) 심어가지고 2개월이면 1m 10cm 자라니까요. 좀 그때 그걸 베어가지고 썰어. 그래서 썰어서 작게 썰어요. 유산균하고 효모를 집어넣어서 발효시키면 아주 고급 사료예요.

1:54:56 and then you add IMO4, lactic acid bacteria and yeast, and you feed them, and then it became a high quality feed. Yeast. … hyomo — that's yeast. To make that yeast: grapes, you know the burst grapes? Buy burst grapes, take them, put them in a container, and cover it. Keep it covered for about 7 to 8 hours and it turns into yeast. Then you stir it, take off the skins, leave only the flesh inside, and all of that is yeast.

… 효모가 이스트야. 그 효모를 만들려면, 포도, 터진 포도 있잖아. 터진 포도 사다가 그걸 갖다가 이 그릇에 넣고, 덮어놔. 그래서 한 7시간 내지 8시간을 덮어놓으면 그게 효모가 되거든. 그래서 휘저어가지고 껍질은 벗겨내고 속 알맹이만 놔두면 그게 다 효모야.

1:55:42 Do you know how to make yeast? The grape that's burst open. You put it in the container, you just mash and then cover with something, and then let it sit about seven hours, and then you take out only the peel, and then leave the inside, and then that is 100% yeast. That's the yeast. That's how you make yeast. Homemade yeast. Grape. Can you repeat that again? Okay. So the grape that has open,

1:56:27 yeah, so it's ripe, burst. So you put it in a container, you mix it, and then you cover about seven hours, and then you remove only the skin and leave inside in the container. That is the yeast, homemade yeast. So you take that [yeast] and the [chopped] corn, add IMO4 and lactic acid bacteria, ferment it all together, and it becomes top grade. So I'm going to repeat it again. So to make a high quality feed for the chicken, you grow the corn and then cut down and then you chop it. You add IMO4 and the lactobacillus bacteria and yeast.

그래서 그걸 갖다가 옥수수 [썬 것에] 토착미생물 4번, 유산균, 그걸 넣어서 같이 발효시키면 아주 고급이 돼요.

1:57:17 And it became a high quality feed. Now, a grown chicken eats 200 g of feed a day. So the adult chickens, they eat about 200 grams of feed, one chicken. Now if you plant corn on one pyeong, 1 m 80 by 1 m 80, that's 3.6 square meters. Then if you plant [corn] there at 20 cm spacing, 900 … 990 … (the words after the numbers are unclear) 990, okay? No, no, no, no. So, to grow this feed plot,

그런데 다 큰 닭은 하루에 사료를 200g을 먹어. 그런데 옥수수를 심게 되면 한 평, 1m 80에 1m 80, 3.6m 평방이 되지. 그럼 거기에 20cm 간격으로 [옥수수를] 심으면, 900… 990…

1:58:03 1.8, no, 1 meter 80 centimeters times 1 meter 80 centimeters, You plant the corn seed, the length is only 20 cm, you give a space 20 cm. When you do that, you will grow 900 corn stalks.

1:59:14 So he made a picture. So this is the plot, your planting area. 1.8 meters by 1.8 meters. And the space you put the corn seed, the 20 centimeters, when you do that, you can plant 910 corn plants. This piece [one plant] comes to 2 kg. So one stalk,

이 부위가 2kg 나온다.

2:00:01 the weight is two kilogram. How much comes out of here? … 910 [plants] … (rest unclear) So total when you harvest this thing, because we have 910 plants, and each plant weighs 2 kilograms, so total weight of the crop is 1,800 kilograms. And since a grown chicken eats 200 g, So, and one chicken eats 200 grams, so then you can feed how many?

여기서 나오는 게 얼마나 나오냐 하면… 910[포기]… 그런데 다 큰 닭이 200g 먹으니까,

2:00:48 9,000 birds. You can feed 9,000 chickens in this field. You harvest this corn, you can feed 9,000 chickens. The math doesn't come out. For how long? At 1.8 meters on the side, you can't get 910 seeds in there. Only 20 millimeters apart or 20 centimeters apart? Oh, is this 20 mm… 20 cm? Yes, 20 cm. Yeah, it is 20 centimeters. But that's only 9 seeds by 9 seeds. It's only 81 plants. Am I wrong?

9,000마리. 오, 이게 20mm… 20cm? 네, 20cm.

2:01:33 Keep going… you're asking whether you can keep harvesting it? I … (rest unclear) Sorry, this is not 910, it's 900. So it does come out to 1,800 kg, doesn't it? So it comes out 1800 kilograms. Because one stalk of the plant is 2 kilograms weight, so it comes out 1,800 kilograms.

이게… 계속해서… 계속해서 수확할 수 있냐고요? …에 제가… 그래서 1,800kg 나오는 건 맞지 않아?

2:02:22 And in Hawaii, because the weather is warm, Hawaii is always warm, so … six times … So if you plant this corn, cut it, and make it into feed, the feed bill comes to less than half. so if you use corn this way you save more than 50 percent Now [a machine] cuts it up like this, just like this … 50% … (rest unclear)

그렇게 되면 하와이에서는 날이 따뜻하기 때문에, 하와이는 항상 따뜻하니까… 6번을… 그러면 이 옥수수 심어가지고 베어서 사료 한다고 하면, 사료값이 반도 안 들어가. 이제 [기계]가 이렇게 딱 이렇게 잘라가지고… 50%가…

2:03:12 So they call it a chopper, with this little machine, and then you feed them with the IMO4, lactic acid bacteria and the yeast, and then you will save 50% of the feed. So the feed costs far less. That's why you can save lots of money. Only using the greens? You're not letting it come to seed? That's only 50%? [She asks Cho:] When you grow the corn, do you use the ears too? You don't pick the corn. The ears form, and the young ears [go in as they are]…

그러니까 사료값이 훨씬 덜 들어가는 거예요. 옥수수 기를 때 옥수수 열매도 쓰냐고요. 옥수수 따지 않고, 열매 열리고 젊은 열매 [그대로]…

2:03:57 Oh, you don't harvest the ear. The young ear, you just use everything, you chop it up a small piece, yeah. Ear and all. Ear and all. Yeah, because it's only two months old. And here, this is a chick drinking water. There's a little chick drinking water. That chick takes a sip of water in its beak and has to look up at the sky once before it can swallow. So the chicks always dip the water, then they have to look at the sky. That's how they drink water. So even while drinking water, the chick thanks God. So these chicks, even when they are drinking, they always thank the Lord.

그리고 여기 병아리가 물 먹는 거야. 그 병아리는 물 한 모금 입에 물고 하늘 한 번 쳐다봐야 물을 먹을 수가 있어. 그래서 병아리는 물을 마시면서도 하나님에게 감사해요.

2:04:46 But man, the lord of all creation, eats the food he's given and doesn't know how to say thank you. And lots of humans, they eat all this food, they don't know how to thank to the Lord. That's why people suffer. That's why these humans suffer a lot. Next. So here … it's open, you see: the skylight. So right now this is the chicken pen, we open the window for them. And the back is open. Also in the back, there is an opening.

그런데 만물의 영장인 사람은 먹을 양식을 얻어먹으면서도 감사할 줄 몰라. 그래서 사람이 고생을 하는 거예요. 그래서 이게 … 열렸잖아요, 천창이. 그리고 뒤가 열렸지.

2:05:35 And how far do you open it? You open it exactly to the chicken's height. The open space is the same as a chicken's height. A grown chicken standing up straight with its head raised, like this, is 36 cm. A fully grown chicken standing up, height up to the top, is about 36 centimeters. So when the fresh air comes in, it all has to go straight to their noses. So when fresh air comes in, it should meet their nose. Because the skylight is open, the sunlight comes in. And also on the roof, there is a window open, so the sunshine is coming onto their bed.

그런데 이 열리는 걸 딱 이만큼 열게 하냐면, 닭의 키만큼 여는 거예요. 이렇게 큰 닭이 딱 서서 고개를 위로 들고 서면 36cm야. 그래서 신선한 바람이 딱 들어올 때 다 코로 들어와야 되지. 천창이 열렸기 때문에 햇빛이 들어와 있단 말이에요.

2:06:29 So once a day, without fail, [the sunlight passes over] the chickens' floor… So, once a day, the sunshine passes over their whole floor. So it all gets sterilized by ultraviolet light. Because of the ultraviolet, the floor is sanitized. And this wire mesh: there are no walls, it's all just wire mesh. So there is no wall, it's all wire. There is no wall between the stalls. And then that height, a little height, is 36 centimeters, the same as a chicken's height. And this height is 36 cm.

그래서 하루에 한 번은 반드시 닭 바닥에 [햇빛이 지나가]… 그러니까 자외선 소독이 다 되는 거야. 그리고 이 철망이, 벽이 없이 전부 다 철망뿐이야. 그리고 이 높이가 36cm야.

2:07:19 But suppose this were not 36 cm but 30 cm. Then the chicken on this side sees the chicken on that side. It can see it. Then they fight. if that little wall is less than 36 cm, let's say it's 30 cm, then they can see the other stall's chickens, they start to fight. So if any of you want to raise chickens, contact CGNF Hawaii and get the poultry-house design and everything else from them. So if you want to raise chickens, contact CGNF Hawaii and get this blueprint. So if as many as 30 people here sign up, I'll come here to teach a specialist poultry [course].

그런데 만약에 이것이 36cm가 아니고 30cm가 됐다. 그러면 이쪽 닭이 저쪽 닭을 봐. 볼 수가 있다고. 그럼 싸움을 해. 그래서 여러분들이 만약에 닭을 기르겠다 그러면 CGNF 하와이에다 연락을 해가지고 축사 설계라든지 다 제공받아야 합니다. 그래서 여기서 30명까지만 된다 그러면은 양계 전문 [과정]으로 내가 이리로 올 거예요.

2:08:12 If there are 30 people who want to raise chickens, he will come just for an advanced chicken course. If natural farming in Hawaii is to grow fast, you all have to work with us; then it spreads fast. So if you want to spread this natural farming, you need to help us so we can spread this natural farming. On 6,000 pyeong of land, a basic natural farming facility will be built. This time in Hilo, there's a 6,000 pyeong, I don't know how much acre, 6,000… five acres,

하와이의 자연농업이 발전이 빨리 되려고 하면 여러분들이 협력을 해줘야 빨리 전개됩니다. 6천 평 땅에 자연농업 기본 시설이 만들어질 거예요.

2:09:05 five acres, there is a Natural Farming Research Center that will be built. It's going to build. Then I'll come here too. And then I can come to Hawaii also. Then I can see you all often. So we can meet each other very often. Now, here we laid rice straw. So he put the rice straw on the floor. Rice straw carries gochogyun (hay bacillus), a microbe that breaks down protein.

그러면 나도 여기로 올 거예요. 그럼 여러분을 자주 만날 수 있다고. 에, 여기다 볏짚을 깔았어. 볏짚에는 고초균이라고, 단백질을 분해하는 미생물이 들어있어요.

2:09:58 On the rice straw, there is a microbe that breaks down protein. There is gochogyun. So it's there; you lay the straw here, and the chickens drop their dung on it. As the dung gets buried in the straw, the protein in it, the nitrogen, is broken down. Because of that microorganism that breaks down protein, when they have their waste, all the nitrogen is broken down very easily. Dung dropped in the morning is all broken down by evening. So if they poop in the morning, by the time in the evening, it's going to all disappear.

그런데 그게 있는데 여기다 이제 볏짚을 깔고 보면 닭들이 똥을 싸놓잖아. 똥을 싸는 걸 볏짚에 묻어가면서 닭똥에 들어있는 단백질이, 질소분이 분해가 돼요. 그런데 그것이 아침에 똥 누면 저녁나절에는 다 부서져.

2:10:49 Then, because the chickens scratch it, it sinks down. Because they always scratch, those dry proteins sink into the floor. And since this floor is a soil floor, it mixes with [the soil] and turns into feed. So our floor is always soil. So when the nitrogen meets with the soil, it starts to form, so it becomes their feed. So [raised] the natural farming way, they dig up and eat the droppings, their own dung, from the floor, and that covers 30% of their feed. So they scratch and they eat from the floor; about 30% of their feed comes from the floor.

그러면 그것이 닭이 헤집기 때문에 아래로 가라앉아. 그렇게 되면 이 바닥이 흙바닥이기 때문에 그게 [흙]하고 배합이 돼서 사료로 바뀌어요. 그래서 자연농업으로 [기르면] 바닥에서 닭똥, 제 똥을 파먹고 사료가 30%가 충당이 돼요.

2:11:41 And there are no flies and no smell. Also there is no fly and no smell.

그리고 파리가 없고 냄새가 안 나.