Baby Food by Age: Mugwort FPJ First, Fruit FFJ Later

21:53 I'm going to compare with the human being now. Take a person. From age one… until about fifteen, you give mugwort and dropwort FPJ. This [dropwort?] is iron…

사람이야. 한 살에서 [열다섯 살] 될 때까지는 쑥, 미나리 천혜녹즙을 주는 거예요. 이 [미나리?]는 철분이고…

22:46 Because this is in it — the iron makes blood, makes blood, and drives growth. [unclear — about children growing well] And what guards that is our manganese — it [unclear]… From age one to about [fifteen], you give this. So let's say you're a human being between one year old to 15 years old. You need to give them dropwort, which

이게 들어 있기 때문에, 이 철분이 있는 것은 피를 만들고, 피를 만들고 [성장 작용]을 시키려고. [불명확: 아이들이 잘 자란다는 내용] 그걸 막아 주는 게 우리 망간이 [불명확]를 막아 주는 거예요. 한 살서부터 몇 살까지는 요걸 주는 거고

23:33 is watercress, and the mugwort. The dropwort has an iron, so it helps the blood. And then the mugwort has a magnesium. Manganese. Magnesium. Magnesium? Is it magnesium? No. Manganese. Manganese. (spelling it out) M-A-N-… Manganese. Mugwort is iron — iron. Mugwort has more iron. Watercress has more manganese. Minari… sorry, is it the other way around?

망간. 망간. 쑥이 철분이요, 철분.

24:28 Thank you, Dr. Park. Mugwort has more iron and the watercress, dropwort, They have more manganese. Manganese. So in Korea, when a mother gives birth, the grandmothers come and do the after-birth care, and they always boil dried mugwort and wash her with that water.

그래서 이게 이제 한국에서는 엄마가 아기를 낳으면 할머니들이 와가지고 산후조리를 하잖아. 꼭 마른 쑥을 갖다가 끓여가지고 그 물로 씻겨.

25:16 So in Korea, when women give birth, grandma comes with a dry mugwort, they put it in the boil water, that's how they clean the mother. So I asked a grandmother: 'Why do you boil mugwort water and wash the new mother with it?' 'Well, that way she recovers well,' she said. That was all she knew — not why, not for what reason. So he asked grandma, why you do that with the mugwort and clean the mother? And she said it recovered really fast. She doesn't know why, but she knows it recovers very fast. But if you look in the Dongui Bogam — the classic of Korean medicine —

그래서 내가 할머니께 여쭤봤지. 아니 왜 그 산모에게 쑥물을 끓여서 씻기느냐고. 예, 그래야 산모가 잘 산단다. 그것만 아시는 거여. 왜, 무엇 때문에 그런지는. 그런데 동의보감이라고 보면, 한약 보감이라고 보면

26:00 it says mugwort and dropwort are women's herbs. So in the medicine book in Korea, the watercress and mugwort is a woman's plant. So woman should have this plant. When I set them against a modern analysis table, mugwort has a lot of iron, and dropwort has a lot of manganese. So the mugwort makes blood and makes platelets. And the manganese stimulates the peripheral nerves and makes wounds close up.

쑥하고 미나리는 여자의 풀이라고 나와 있어. 그걸 현대판 분석표로 놓고 보니까 쑥에 철분이 많이 들어 있고 미나리는 망간이 많이 들어 있다 이거지. 그래서 쑥은 피를 만들어 놓고 혈소판을 만들어 놓는다니. 그리고 망간은 말초 신경을 자극해서 상처를 아물게 만들어 버려.

26:42 Then new cells come fast. So when a mother gives birth she loses blood. The blood is short, so you give mugwort to replenish it, and the manganese heals the wound. That's why mugwort and dropwort are called women's herbs. So, when you see in the modern scientist's book, he will explain to you that mugwort has lots of iron and the watercress has a manganese. Anyway, that's why they're using for the, so mugwort, because when mom giving a birth, they lose lots of blood, so they need to give iron.

그러면 새 세포가 빨라요. 그래서 엄마가 애기를 낳으려면 피를 흘리잖아. 피가 모자라니까 쑥을 갖다가 해서 피를 보충해 주고, 망간에서는 상처 난 곳을 아물게 하는 것. 그래서 쑥과 미나리가 여자 풀이라는 말이에요.

27:31 Also, there's lots of scar tissue at the bottom, so to heal that, this watercress has the ability to heal the cell very fast. So that's why they use these two plants. From age one to fifteen they're growing. So [unclear]… So, when between one year old to fifteen years old, they're growing very fast, so they need lots of new cells and lots of good blood. So they need to use, that's why they use this plant. It's the same as our crop. Young crop, we use these a lot, always actually.

한 살서부터 15살까지 자라는 거야. 그러니 [불명확]…

28:21 You all — when you raise a baby, up to about fifteen the dead skin rubs off easily. Oh, in Korea we exfoliate our dead skin. When in this age, we can exfoliate their dead skin very easily in this age. At this age? The reason it rubs off so easily is that the metabolism is fast. So that means when you have your dead skin comes off very easily that means your metabolism is very good. So from age one to about [fifteen] is when the body is being built,

여러분들이 말이죠, 아기 기를 때 한 살서 15살까지는 때가 잘 밀리지. 이 시절에는? 때가 잘 밀리는 이유는, 신진대사가 빠른 거예요. 그래서 한 살서부터 몇 살까지는 몸을 만드는 때이기 때문에

29:08 so it needs a lot of iron and manganese. So at this stage you give mugwort and dropwort FPJ, but once they're a bit older, past twenty… then there's no need to make the body grow big. At that point among the FPJs, things like flowers, or fruit as it sets — you ferment that and give it. So according to their age, like between 20 to 45, we are not really growing, but we need

철분하고 망간이 많이 필요한 거예요. 그래서 이때는 쑥이나 미나리 천혜녹즙을 주지만 나이가 좀 넘어서, 스무 살 넘어서… 그때는 몸을 크게 키울 필요는 없는 거예요. 그때는 이제 천혜녹즙 중에도 꽃이라든지 열매 열리고, 그걸 갖다가 발효시켜서 그걸 주는 거예요.

29:57 to help them maintain their health. Yeah, so all these crops, we use fermented plant juice, we use young stage. After that we use like a flower or young fruit or ripe fruit, we use that to make the nutrient for the crops. Does it make sense to you? Fruit, fruit fermented juice goes here. But this one, at this time, the young ones...

과실, 과실 발효액 놓고. 그런데 이거 이때요, 어린 것이

30:47 No, mango: there are big mangoes and small mangoes, all of them on the tree. When it [flowers], the fermented juice from that time, that time's FFJ? When they're around 15 to 25 years old ... so what we give is still [fermented juice], but the kind changes. So between 15 years old and 25 years old, you make a, use ripe fruit or flower

아니, 망고가, 큰 망고가, 조그만 망고가 다 있는 거. [개화]했을 때, 그때의 발효액을, 그때의 FFJ? 15, 25살 정도 됐을 때 … 그래서 주는 것은 같은 [천혜녹즙]에 들지만 종류가 달라진 거예요.

31:42 that's fully bloomed, you make a fermented fruit juice. So we give this different nutrient. So we use different material according to their growth. Okay, so according to their growth, in the beginning stage we use like a dropwort or mugwort. But after they turn 15 to 25 years old age, you need to maintain their health. So we use ripe fruit or fully flowered, bloomed flower to use fermented fruit juice.

32:28 Director, let me ask you something. Isn't this the time of having babies? The time of having babies is adulthood. This is becoming a youth; this is adolescence. In adolescence you have to build up the body; when they carry a baby, the work is raising the baby, so rather than mugwort or [dropwort] [unclear], you give what's in fruit or flowers. So if you look at this age stage, in this stage, they are starting to the age they can pregnancy age, menstrual age.

원장님, 제가 말씀을 물어보겠는데요. 애기 날 시절 아니에요? 애기 가질 시절이 어른이지. 소년이 되는 거지, 이건 청소년이고. 청소년 때 몸집을 키워줘야 되고, 애기를 가질 때는 애기를 키우는 걸로 했기 때문에 쑥이나 [미나리] 이런 걸 주면 [불분명] 과실이나 꽃에 반영해주는 것이

33:14 That's why you need to change the material to give your higher nutrients, so fully ripe fruit or fully bloomed flower. That's why we are using this material. Yes, right. [unclear] ... for a crop ... of all the leaves it grows in the whole year ... So let's say if you look at the fully grown crops, So when their height is one third of that crop,

어, 맞죠. [불분명] … 작물이란 것은 … 이파리가 전체 1년에 자라는 이파리에 …

34:00 say let's say it's a three meter crop, and they are a one-foot-high crop, that's this stage. And this one? At this age they marry, don't they? When they marry [and conceive], it's not the body getting bigger; the function of raising a baby in the belly has to develop. At that time, [not] mugwort or dropwort: fermented juice made from fruit or flowers works best. So after that, when they became the ability to have a baby, so you need to prepare them. So that's why we are using fully bloomed flower or ripe fruits for their nutrition.

그리고 이거는? 이때 결혼을 하지 않아? 결혼을 [해서 임신을] 할 때는 몸집이 커지는 게 아니라 뱃속에서 애기를 키우는 기능이 발달되어야 되거든. 그때는 쑥이나 미나리 [아니라] 과실이나 꽃으로 만든 발효액, 천혜녹즙을 주는 것이 효과적이다.

34:46 So here ... when young, once a week [mugwort, dropwort] ... up to here is [unclear: Cho marks 1–15 and 15–25 on the weekly timeline on the board] So, looking at it week by week: in the first half you give mugwort and dropwort once every week, and in the second half, once every week, fruit or flowers [fermented]. Then the nutrition is balanced. So, let's say this... this must be a, anyway, let's say

그래서 여기에 … 어렸을 때 일주일에 한 번씩은 [쑥, 미나리] … 여기까지가 [불분명: 1살부터 15살, 15살부터 25살을 칠판의 주간 선에 표시함] 이렇게 되면, 일주일로 봤을 때 전반기는 쑥 미나리를 일주일마다 한 번씩 주는 것이고, 후반기 가서는 일주일마다 과실이나 꽃을 [발효해서] 주면 영양의 배분이 맞는다.

35:34 this two weeks is this age, then you need to fermented plant juice, you need to use a mugwort or the watercress, dropwort. And then 15 to 25 age, on this stage, you need to use fermented fruit juice of the ripe fruit or fully bloomed flower. So it's like up to here, it's almost two weeks, so two weeks you need to use this material for the young plant. So don't wait to treat a disease once it comes. Match the nutrition so it doesn't come, and it won't.

그러니까 우리가 병이 났을 때 치료를 하지 말고, 병이 나지 않도록 영양을 맞춰주면 병이 안 나잖아.

36:23 So if you give a nutrient according to their nutrient cycle, they will grow very healthy. Do you understand what this is about? So as you farm, just compare and analyze. A comparison plot: do it this way here and that way there, keep comparison plots, try treatments, watch the crop grow, and you'll know. That way the growing process has to get into your body. Then one look at the crop and you realize, 'Ah, I did something wrong here, that's why it turned out like this.' So if you want to know really well for yourself, you need to compare.

이 내용이 뭔지 아시겠어요? 그러니까 여러분 농사지으면서 어차피 비교하고 분석만 해. 비교구, 여기는 이렇게 하고 여기는 이렇게 하고, 비교구를 두어가지고서 처리를 해보면서 작물이 커가는 걸 보면 알잖아. 그렇게 해서 자라는 과정을 내 몸에 익혀야 된다고. 작물을 딱 보면 아, 지금 여기 내가 뭘 잘못해서 이렇게 됐구나 하는 걸 깨달을 수가 있잖아요.

37:18 One plot and then the other plot use natural farming. You compare with the other plot. Then you will understand the condition of the plant, what they need or not. You can do that if you want to really go into, you know, become an expert. Don't fall asleep, you're going to get smacked. When I first learned natural farming in Japan, if your sitting posture was even a little crooked, he wouldn't lecture. When he was young, when he does the natural farming seminar, even your sitting position is not correct, he stopped seminar. He was very strict.

내가 자연농업을 처음에 일본에서 배울 때, 앉은 자세만 삐딱해도 강연을 안 해.

38:08 I asked why. He said when your body goes crooked, your thinking goes crooked too, so you can't listen properly. So the reason is if your posture is not in correct posture, you're tilted, even your thought is tilted. Afterwards, after taking a [week-long] course, what stayed in my memory was that [my knees] hurt … So sometimes, a seminar one week, he cannot remember anything, but he only remembers his knee is so sore. The person who taught me was a grandmother. I was about 30 then, and she was a grandmother of seventy-eight.

왜 그러냐 했더니, 몸이 삐딱해지면 생각도 삐딱해지기 때문에 제대로 듣지를 못한다는 거예요. 나중에 [일주일] 강습 받고 나는데 기억에 남는 건 [무릎이] 아파서 … 내가… 나를 가르쳐주시는 분이 할머니인데, 그때 내가 서른 살쯤이었는데, 그 할머니가 일흔여덟 살 되는 할머니였거든.

39:03 How old was that? 86? [Seventy-eight] is 78. Oh, wow. So when he was around 30 years old, he learned this natural farming, one portion of it. He had a different teacher, but from this old lady, her age was 78 years old. So that grandmother [taught me], and she told a lot of history, a lot of old stories. So when she was teaching him, she always told lots of history.

몇 살이지? 86? [일흔여덟]이면 78이지. 그래서 그 할머니가 [가르쳐 주셨는데], 역사 얘기, 옛날 얘기를 많이 하시는 거예요.

39:51 "When my father and mother farmed, the seasons were like this," she said; they farmed by watching the world, watching nature. So her parents, when they were farming, the world was like this, and then they're looking at the weather and they farm. Not according to... So, it's totally 100% natural farming. Modern people studied, so they farm by academic knowledge. The old folks farmed with nature as their object. So in the modern farming, they just calculate and go

그래서 우리 [할머니의] 아버지, 어머니가 농사지으실 때는 계절이 이랬고, 세상을, 자연을 보고 농사지었다는 거지. 그래서 현대 사람들은 공부를 했기 때문에 학문적인 걸로 농사짓지만, 옛날 어른들은 자연을 대상으로 해서 농사를 지었다고.

40:40 with their scientific theory. In olden days, they just looking at the nature, so we all farmed natural farming. So the old people farmed with wisdom, So olden days, they farm with the wisdom, and the modern farming is with their head. Do you understand? ... All right. So modern people, they calculate a lot, but then they don't know... they cannot find the answer.

그래서 옛날 노인은 지혜로 농사지었고, 이해가 되세요? … 알았습니다.

41:34 Right? That's what I mean. They can't work it out. They can only calculate. But they cannot figure out this by wisdom. Yeah, they cannot figure out, so they don't know the true answer. In the olden days, we always think about other people, with yourself and other people, always think everybody. To put it another way: people in the old days cared a lot about the other person, but people now calculate everything. So there's no warmth (jeong).

그렇죠? 그런 소리죠. 풀이를 못해. 다시 그런 얘기하면, 옛날 사람들은 상대방을 배려하는 마음이 많았지만, 지금 사람들은 계산적으로 따져. 그래서 정이 없어.

42:22 but nowadays they became very selfish so they not much love in their heart Is this done? Yes. Okay, then take this down. Sorry.

이게 다 된 거예요? 네. 자, 그럼 이거 없애요.